leg muscles have burning heaviness and stiffness- that cause

I went to a natural doctor, who has patients come from surrounding states, who can't find another like him. He said there's only one kind of thyroid test that can detect a kind of thyroid deficiency where all others test normal. He tested me with that test, then prescribed thyroid.

I did take those meds for a while, but have tried to stop, instead taking lots of thyroid support from the health food store. They are quite good.

But I'm not sure they fixed the ase problem.

I have gone to dentists, and chiropractors, who told me what I needed, and either expensively or not, did something that felt better, but didn't fix permanently.

The legs ache, I cannot lift them, getting into cars and climbing stairs is difficult, the muscles are as hard as a board.

I take Vitamin C like it's going out of style , also expensive supplements (Flavenzym) to boost my immune system. They help, but I never knew why. Also, when I am given antibiotics for other prescribed reasons, I feel wonderful -- have for decades, but have not understood how to ask for more, as I didn't have anything I could tell was wrong. When I have the antibiotics, I can walk freely.

I finally got a strong intuitional prompt to rinse my mouth. I use distilled water mixed with the Real Willard Water. Apparently there's imitations that don't work, but I get the Real Willard Water at willardswater.com (notice the "s" in the address). I rinse a *lot* three times a day, and each time the pain lessens.

Why was I rinsing? Because I tasted pus in my mouth. That is not detectable from an X-ray or a blood test (unless they know what they're testing for). I didn't know where the pus was coming from. I hoped that I could get rid of the pus by osmosis, somehow. And it was working, because I could sense the beginning of a change.

I have a hypothesis for now, and I'm still working on it. I may have a low-level runnynny nose that pooled and dried into hardened phlegm in my sinuses. Then the drip became a post-nasal drip, and poured into my stomach (causing nausea) and otherwise into my blood stream (hardened muscles). By stopping the pus draining into my blood stream at least 3 times a day I had temporary relief three times a day. Now my sinuses have begun to clear. The difference is like breathing through a straw and breathing more clearly.

I'm wondering whether the hardened muscles is from years of pus in the blood. I've had pus drain out of my head (or removed surgically) twice before, and as long as I can remember, I've always responded to antibiotics like I got my life back, until the meds ran out. All I know is that when I was in pre-teens we had a car accident, and I appeared to be the only one that had no physical damage, other than some knocks on the head, so they didn't treat me. But I never had a normal life after that, always tired and depressed. And in later years hardened legd muscles and knee -mostly- hip joints that hurt, a lower back that hurts, and unclear thinking.

Still rinsing with Willards Water (The Real Willard Water), still taking gobs of itamin C, still functioning only if I have lots of power foods from the health food store that I can tolerate. Noticeable improvement. More walking, less shuffling, most days. Have to use my cane less.

I wonder if other people have low-level infections that, undetected, could lead to poor immunity and hardened muscles. Dentists, these days, are very, very alert to jaw infections - this is new policy for them. But something else could be making the jaw infect. I don't know whether something like dried phlegm, or pus in the blood can be detected, at least unless they know they're supposed to be looking for something like that, without telling us that we're crazy.

My leg pain was coupled with hip pain, but each required different considerations

I have had the same symptoms for about a year. This can be agonizingly painful. My worst pain comes when I am stressed, or when I went to a gym and soaked in the hot tub, or went to a chiropractor asking for help. I told the chiropractor that my legs were out of their joints, and he needed to put them back in their sockets. Instead he treated me for pain. I had the worst pain ever after that treatment. Can you believe? My legs were out of their joints, he not only didn't put them back into their sockets -- instead he relaxed the musculature that was holding the legs at least marginally in their sockets. After his "treatment" my legs were pushing out of their sockets worse and stretching muscles that had no business being stretched. Such pain! I was in tears and never went back. I am under the impression that professionals don't know how to treat this stuff.

So far, I found that an internal infection increased the pain. So I take LOTS of Vitamin C and Wobenzym N available from some health food stores, and from . Keeps the infection away. Doctor would not prescribe antibiotics, because he didn't believe me. I take as much Vitamin C as I can tolerate, without getting the runs. I look for gentle Vitamin C, not the plain Vitamin C that's cheap. I can take more gentle Vitamin C than I can take the cheap variety. The pain drove me to experiment, obviously.

Plus, I found that the pain decreases when I take Hyland's homeopathic tablets Bryonia Alba 30x, also available from , for hip pain. Helps leg pain somewhat, I had to focus on the hip pain first, so that I could then start to resolve the leg pain.

Leg pain is being relieved by Hyland's Mag. Phos 30x for Muscle Cramps and Pains, again available from vitacost.

I can walk fast if I use hiking poles. (Fast, for me, is usually about the same speed as others walk, although if I walk heel-and-toe and push off from the toes, I can walk faster than normal people, when I am using those hiking poles.) From a sitting position I have had to, sometimes, grab the poles to hoist myself up. I can walk extremely short distances without them, but I have a far greater range and speed with the hiking poles. Best thing since sliced bread. Hiking poles can be found on the web. I got mine from . Had to get a backpack-type purse, again from . When one is holding oneself up with hiking poles, one cannot be carrying anything in the hands!

For some odd reason Hyland's Carbo Veg 30x helps with the leg pain. I have no clue why, because that remedy is for nausea. But I found that my legs hurt worse when the leg muscles were hard as boards, and taking Hyland's Carbo Veg 30x softened the leg muscles.

Also, none of the above work very well unless I am taking Real Willard Water. The knockoff willard water is known to not work, so don't even go there. The Real Willard Water is available from Notice the *S* in that web address. If you don't put the *S* in the web address, you wander about on the web a bit, before you find the real deal. I know a younger person than me who occasionally gets leg cramps at night. All he needs is the Real Willard Water, he doesn't need to take anything else.

I got the brainstorm also, to use Willards Water in a nasal cleanser. The infection has subsided enormously since I started that. It is still being cleaned out. Nasal cleansing was one good thing the doctor recommended. He said it would take a long time to wash out the infection from a nasal cavity.

All of the above required spiritual (listening really hard after prayer) before I found the relief. Still listening hard. <grin>

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