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This has become common and baffled medicine on the whole. It is weakness in your neck or cervical spine. You can test if this is cause yours by doing a simple movement. Lie on the floow (no pillows) and let your head tip back, for example at the top of some steps. Your arms should be flat down your sides and palms up. Allow your head to tip back slowly, then exercise it back to midline. This may well feel very difficult, sparkles in your vision, pain, dizziness and nausea. Some people actually vomit, very unpleasant. I like this way rather than weighted attachments - do you know what your head weighs? Allow your head ti be the weight, hence the step. This horrid test is also the treatment. Work through it. If the first day you can only do two reps then so be it. Do reps on your back, and the same on your belly at the step. It took me 2 weeks of this before I noticed the difference. I do this twice a day now. When you are walking about your head is making movements and keeps muscles built. We spend so much time sitting and keeping our heads still gawking at screens or just thin air, it starts to hurt us. I am sorry there is no easy fix here, you have to get the special and sometimes tiny muscles back to strength. You will feel sick and all the rest of it, but you do already, right? Good luck to you, I had to find this out as my shoulders were so painful too, I thought they were frozen. This is a cultural disease. You may find some things in ergonomics literature. There is no money in you exercising on your steps, so good luck getting the advice when folks are on 'duty'.
Hi Okay I'm back....
I have not stopped trying to solve this problem. I am much worse now than ever.
Okay for one thing - Again make sure you describe your symptoms correctly, If you say VERTIGO they think room spinning dizziness.
I have been saying balance problem,or disequalibrium problem...
Okay here some NEWS - Those with Neck pain,stiffness,soreness,burning. There is a problem called CERVICAL VERTIGO
Now most MD's will only consider this as it's pretty rare, if you have been in a recent accident or had an injury to your neck. BUT It can also come from degenerative discs in your cervical spine.
So MRI your cervical spine and see what's going on there. I have burning in my neck,back and pain in my lumbar. I used to lift 350 tires off the ground for years, But the trick was my DIZZY like symptoms showed up LONG before my neck & back problems.
I have now seen 41 doctors and specialists and have had this problem straight for 13 years... I know the frustration all to well. I have lost nearly everything because of this.. No job, no disability.no life I NEVER go anywhere, accept to doctors...No HELP! I have done.. EMG,MRI Brain,Neck.Lumbar, CT Scan, Flex X ray, ENG, VNG (goggles) Allergy, 4 Chiropractors etc... I KNOW my dizzy balnce problem is coming form my neck & or back.. sooner or later your problem will rear it's ugly head.
I recently tried Upper Cervical Treatment It's special very SUBTLE chiropratic technique. They were WONDERFUL people as most non MD's are I have found. Here is a link to a video explanation of the procedure.
I went for 12 visits and it didn't work for me... But that's me maybe it can help one of you.
Try to avoid letting chiropractors be too aggressive with your neck if you have herniated bulging discs.. Just be careful
The ENG will be the best way to rule out INNER EAR problem. That kind of vertigo is spinning and it usually does not last, certainly not 13 years
Look for a Balance Dizziness Center near you. They use that head positioning technique and it often works in one or two visits.
I'm going to try Accupunture next,,, but really it's so hard because not only are we dealing with BALANCE problems,/dizziness we have the pain and stiffness of spine damage.
GUYS & GALS - Try to write down your symptoms, also make a NOTE of anything that makes you feel slightly better. See test are needed but often we don't get answers,, but knowing things like what makes you a bit better or worse is HUGE evidence.
For me going into a swimming pool dizzy and all helps me 75% of the time... I figured I'm weightless in the water and it DECOMPRESSES our SPINES...
This is how I know, it;s neck/spine problem causing my off balance,tipping,dizzy, sinking into the ground sensation,,,,,
Best of Luck to all of you - You are not alone....
I have not stopped trying to solve this problem. I am much worse now than ever.
Okay for one thing - Again make sure you describe your symptoms correctly, If you say VERTIGO they think room spinning dizziness.
I have been saying balance problem,or disequalibrium problem...
Okay here some NEWS - Those with Neck pain,stiffness,soreness,burning. There is a problem called CERVICAL VERTIGO
Now most MD's will only consider this as it's pretty rare, if you have been in a recent accident or had an injury to your neck. BUT It can also come from degenerative discs in your cervical spine.
So MRI your cervical spine and see what's going on there. I have burning in my neck,back and pain in my lumbar. I used to lift 350 tires off the ground for years, But the trick was my DIZZY like symptoms showed up LONG before my neck & back problems.
I have now seen 41 doctors and specialists and have had this problem straight for 13 years... I know the frustration all to well. I have lost nearly everything because of this.. No job, no disability.no life I NEVER go anywhere, accept to doctors...No HELP! I have done.. EMG,MRI Brain,Neck.Lumbar, CT Scan, Flex X ray, ENG, VNG (goggles) Allergy, 4 Chiropractors etc... I KNOW my dizzy balnce problem is coming form my neck & or back.. sooner or later your problem will rear it's ugly head.
I recently tried Upper Cervical Treatment It's special very SUBTLE chiropratic technique. They were WONDERFUL people as most non MD's are I have found. Here is a link to a video explanation of the procedure.
I went for 12 visits and it didn't work for me... But that's me maybe it can help one of you.
Try to avoid letting chiropractors be too aggressive with your neck if you have herniated bulging discs.. Just be careful
The ENG will be the best way to rule out INNER EAR problem. That kind of vertigo is spinning and it usually does not last, certainly not 13 years
I'm going to try Accupunture next,,, but really it's so hard because not only are we dealing with BALANCE problems,/dizziness we have the pain and stiffness of spine damage.
GUYS & GALS - Try to write down your symptoms, also make a NOTE of anything that makes you feel slightly better. See test are needed but often we don't get answers,, but knowing things like what makes you a bit better or worse is HUGE evidence.
For me going into a swimming pool dizzy and all helps me 75% of the time... I figured I'm weightless in the water and it DECOMPRESSES our SPINES...
This is how I know, it;s neck/spine problem causing my off balance,tipping,dizzy, sinking into the ground sensation,,,,,
Best of Luck to all of you - You are not alone....
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This has become common and baffled medicine on the whole. It is weakness in your neck or cervical spine. You can test if this is cause yours by doing a simple movement. Lie on the floow (no pillows) and let your head tip back, for example at the top of some steps. Your arms should be flat down your sides and palms up. Allow your head to tip back slowly, then exercise it back to midline. This may well feel very difficult, sparkles in your vision, pain, dizziness and nausea. Some people actually vomit, very unpleasant. I like this way rather than weighted attachments - do you know what your head weighs? Allow your head ti be the weight, hence the step. This horrid test is also the treatment. Work through it. If the first day you can only do two reps then so be it. Do reps on your back, and the same on your belly at the step. It took me 2 weeks of this before I noticed the difference. I do this twice a day now. When you are walking about your head is making movements and keeps muscles built. We spend so much time sitting and keeping our heads still gawking at screens or just thin air, it starts to hurt us. I am sorry there is no easy fix here, you have to get the special and sometimes tiny muscles back to strength. You will feel sick and all the rest of it, but you do already, right? Good luck to you, I had to find this out as my shoulders were so painful too, I thought they were frozen. This is a cultural disease. You may find some things in ergonomics literature. There is no money in you exercising on your steps, so good luck getting the advice when folks are on 'duty'. |
its funny you mention this. i noticed a while back while doing situps that my neck seemed to be weak; something i'd definitely never had. at the time, though, i just chalked it up to stress-caused muscle tension. i live in an apartment with an upstairs loft. coincidentally, a few days ago, i started doing 'neck ups' while laying on my back at the top of the stairs, dangling my head over the top step. unfortunately, i can't comment on the success of this remedy as i've only done this for a couple of days. i plan to continue for a while and see if my condition doesn't improve. ill make another post with results.
this 'disorder' can be really frightening. its really hard not to worry that something is seriously wrong but i do think worrying only makes it worse. here are some things ive noticed, aside from (due to) chronic head and neck pain:
- i have more trouble focusing now.
my memory has definitely taken a hit although i think much of it is due to my decreased focus level and increased self-monitoring.
when the pain is bad, i feel very disconnected from the world. its a strange feeling but people seem almost alien to me.
jogging helps.
don't let yourself get hungry. this is when it is worst for me.
i can't look at a computer screen very long now without my eyes absolutely killing me. i've purchased artificial tears but they don't really seem to help. i've developed a couple of wrinkles on my forehead due to squinting so much.
my vision fluctuates from sharp to snowy, depending on the intensity of the pain.
the pain will subside a bit, if YOU allow it to. stay busy and interact with other people. if i'm not involved in the conversation, then i tend to turn inward and start monitoring my pain which only amplifies it.
p.s. what this person says about these exercises - nausea, dizziness, sparkles, etc is all true. the first time i did this, i almost yakked.
I have the exact same symptoms from last 4+ months. MRI, CT, blood test (sugar etc) all normal. The worst time for me is while driving (even though my work is 3miles) and working on computers. Some additional symptoms are my left and top part of head also gets numb or I feel there are some layers. Someone said about changing vision, blurriness and hard to focus, this also happens to me. Apparently, I got RX glasses now for that (nearsighted). I had my doctors read through this bog so they would understand my symptoms and frustration. They (my physician, neurologist, sleep specialist, Physical therapist) are trying really hard to figure this out and working together. Currently my Physical Therapist has shown me how to exercise the neck muscle. They also think I may not be sleeping well, so they will monitor how I sleep. I will update if anything helps me. - Sonik
I wrote in earlier stating my problems/symptoms. Well, it's still happening. My neurosurgeon mentioned the Barre-Lieou Syndrome, which fits my symptoms to a tea. I am now awaiting another MRI and waiting to see a new neurologist. I hope they can figure this out someday, as it is very depressing to not be able to focus properly. It's hard to concentrate at work. So frustrating.
I have the same symptoms, they dignosed it as anxiety, i knew that it wasnt tehn finaly a dr dignosed meniere's. meniere's is a disorder in the middle ear, Middle ear problems can cause all kinds of problems with your surroundings almost makign you feel like a dream state. If you have ringign in your ear and some hearing loss go get checked out. There no cure but atleast now i know im not crazy.
Hi,
I have been suffering from all of the things that have been described here for many many years. In the last few years it has gotten worse - I woke up one day in a brain fog, I have trouble standing/walking /driving - I feel weak/off-balance/blurred vision/dizzy and spaced out. I've had every test there is and they all came back negative.
I think I may have found the answer (I'm hoping!!). I saw this Dr on a news show and I went to see him - I tested positive for heavy metal poisoining. I am in the middle of doing his detox pgm and I feel a lot better after only a few weeks. Metal poisoning causes weakness in your muscles - usually starting on the left side (I have had neck and shoulder pain on my left side for years - i keep having to go to the chiro) and it messes up the signals in your body that makes you dizzy and spaced out. You can get it if you don't eat properly (ie. too many carbs and not enough 'good' fat ) and are vitamin deficient.
Check out his website:
I'm glad I did!
I have been suffering from all of the things that have been described here for many many years. In the last few years it has gotten worse - I woke up one day in a brain fog, I have trouble standing/walking /driving - I feel weak/off-balance/blurred vision/dizzy and spaced out. I've had every test there is and they all came back negative.
I think I may have found the answer (I'm hoping!!). I saw this Dr on a news show and I went to see him - I tested positive for heavy metal poisoining. I am in the middle of doing his detox pgm and I feel a lot better after only a few weeks. Metal poisoning causes weakness in your muscles - usually starting on the left side (I have had neck and shoulder pain on my left side for years - i keep having to go to the chiro) and it messes up the signals in your body that makes you dizzy and spaced out. You can get it if you don't eat properly (ie. too many carbs and not enough 'good' fat ) and are vitamin deficient.
Check out his website:
I'm glad I did!
Hi again,
For some reason the url did not show up in my post.
The doctor's website is
You can google him: Doctor Jackson - he has a lot of info on veritgo/pain...etc. It's very enlightening! It's not at all what you think can be wrong with you. I went though all of the chiro visits/acupuncture/massages etc - those treatments only offered temporary relief.
For some reason the url did not show up in my post.
The doctor's website is
You can google him: Doctor Jackson - he has a lot of info on veritgo/pain...etc. It's very enlightening! It's not at all what you think can be wrong with you. I went though all of the chiro visits/acupuncture/massages etc - those treatments only offered temporary relief.
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